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1992年采访中，Tupac Shakur激情表达对美国社会贪婪现象的批判，强调财富与责任的关系，适合练习听力与话题讨论。
- This world is such a, and when I say this world I mean it, I don't mean in ideal sense,
这个世界真是糟糕透顶……当我提到“这个世界”时，我指的是现实中的这个世界，而不是理想化的那个世界。
I mean in everyday, every little thing you do.
我的意思是，指你在日常生活中做的每一件小事。
It's such a gimme gimme gimme!
这种行为完全就是“索取无度”的表现……
Everybody back off, you know everybody's taught that from school.
大家都退后一点吧，你们应该都知道这个道理——学校里都教过大家这个。
Everywhere, big business, you want to be successful, you want to be like Trump?
无论在哪里，大企业都希望取得成功，都希望成为像特朗普那样的成功人士。
Gimme gimme gimme!
给我！给我！给我！
Push push push push!
推！推！推！推！
Step step step!
一步一步来！
Crush crush crush!
Crush crush crush!
That's how it all is, it's like nobody ever stops.
事情就是这样，仿佛从来没有人会停下来似的。
I feel like, instead of us just being like "Slavery's bad, slavery's bad, bad whitey, bad whitey!"
我觉得，我们不应该只是不停地喊“奴隶制是邪恶的！那些白人也是邪恶的！
I mean, let's stop that.
我的意思是，让我们别再这样做了吧。
Everybody's smart enough to know that we've been slighted.
每个人都很聪明，都能意识到我们受到了轻视（或：我们被怠慢了）。
and we want ours.
我们也想要属于自己的那份。
I don't mean by ours, 40 acres and mule because we passed that.
我所说的“我们的财产”并不是指那40英亩的土地和那头骡子——因为我们已经不再拥有那些东西了。
But we need help, I mean for us to be on our own two feet, us meaning youth,
但我们需要帮助，这样才能真正自立——这里的“我们”指的是年轻人。
or us meaning black people, whatever you want to take it for, for us to be on our own two feet we do need help.
或者这里的“我们”指的是黑人；无论你怎么理解这句话，要想让我们真正自立、独立生活，我们确实需要帮助。
We have been here, we have been a good friend.
我们曾经在一起，彼此都是很好的朋友。
If you want to make it a relationship type thing, we have been there, and now we deserve our payback.
如果你想把这件事变成一种“恋爱关系”（即基于浪漫或亲密关系的关系），其实我们之前也经历过类似的情况；现在，我们理应得到应有的回报（比如对方的关心、尊重或更多的陪伴）。
It's like you got a friend that you don't never look out for.
这就好比你有一个朋友，却从不关心他的安危或需要。
You know, you now dressed up in jewels, America's got jewels, they got paid and everything, lending money to everybody except us.
你知道的，现在他们都穿上了华丽的珠宝；美国本身也拥有许多珠宝，那些人还拿到了报酬等等。他们把钱借给了所有人，唯独不借给我们。
And it's like everybody need a little help on their way to being, you know, self reliant.
每个人在走向自立的过程中似乎都需要一点帮助。
You know what I'm saying?
你知道我在说什么吧？
That's the whole thing about the album, about the Special Olympics, everybody need a little something to be independent.
这就是这张专辑的核心意义所在——它旨在宣传特奥会（Special Olympics）的理念：每个人都需要一些东西来帮助自己实现独立。
No independent persons just grew up, and was born independent.
没有人是自然而然地就成为独立个体的；也没有人天生就具备独立性。
You worked, and you learned team work, and you learned cooperation, and unity, and struggle, and then you became independent.
你付出了努力，学会了团队合作、相互协作以及团结一致的精神；你也经历了种种挑战与困难，最终实现了独立。
We have to teach that, and instill that.
我们必须传授这些知识，并让孩子们真正理解其中的道理。
Why is it that they want to do that?
他们为什么想要这么做呢？
I mean if this is truly a melting pot, and a country where we care about, and Lady Liberty got her hand like this,
我的意思是，如果这真是一个多元文化交融的“大熔炉”，一个我们真正关心其命运的国家的话……那么自由女神像的手势应该也是这样的才对。
she really love us then we need to be like that.
如果她真的爱我们，那么我们也应该如此去爱她。
It needs to be the black kids, and if there's a white person who got money, then he need to help'em.
必须是那些黑人孩子；如果有一个白人有钱，那么他就应该帮助他们。
He need to help black kids, Mexican kids, Korean kids, whatever.
他需要帮助黑人孩子、墨西哥孩子、韩国孩子，以及其他所有需要帮助的孩子。
But they need to be real, and they need to be before we all die, and then you say "I made a mistake,
但这些改变必须是切实可行的，而且必须在我们都去世之前实现。然后你就会说：“我犯了一个错误……
we should have game them some money.
我们应该给他们一些钱。
We really should have helped these folks.".
我们真的应该帮助这些人的。
It's going to be too late, you know what I'm saying?
到时候就太晚了，你明白我的意思吧？
Then that's when you gotta pay your own karma.
到那时，你就只能自己承担后果（即承受因自己的行为而产生的“业报”）了。
And that's what God make you punish, when God punishes you, because I feel like there's too much money here.
这就是上帝让你受到惩罚的原因；当上帝惩罚你的时候，我觉得这里的金钱实在太多了。
I mean nobody should be hitting lotto for 36 million, and we got people starving in the streets.
我的意思是，根本不应该有人花大价钱去买彩票，指望中3600万的奖金；而与此同时，却还有很多人在街头挨饿。
That is not idealistic, that's just real.
这并不是理想主义的表现，而只是现实罢了。