Former New York City Police Commissioner Bill Bratton [Interview] · FOX 5 New York
Bill Bratton 访谈中讨论纽约市枪支暴力问题，分析其成因并提出应对策略，适合练习听力与话题讨论。
Bill Bratton, a former police commissioner for not only one but two administrations.
比尔·布拉顿（Bill Bratton）曾担任过两届政府时期的警察局长。
In fact, he built his distinguished reputation on his leadership and fighting crime both here and in LA,
事实上，他之所以能够获得如此卓越的声誉，完全归功于他在本地以及洛杉矶地区所展现出的领导才能和打击犯罪的决心与行动。
a career spanning nearly five decades.
一个长达近五十年的职业生涯。
And the commissioner joining us, of course, credited with helping New York City earn that title of the safest big city in the US.
当然，与我们一同出席的这位专员也为纽约市赢得了“美国最安全的大城市”这一称号做出了重要贡献。
I still have to call you commissioner because that's just the way it is.
我还是得称呼你为“专员”，因为事实就是如此。
But we still no longer can enjoy that title as a safest city in the US.
但我们再也无法享有“美国最安全城市”这一称号了。
In fact, to be pretty hard pressed to find anyone who thinks that Mr.
事实上，几乎找不到任何人会认为那位先生……（原句不完整，无法准确翻译后半部分内容。）
Bratton, Morrell down with the NYPD reports of epic amounts of gang violence and lawlessness in this city.
布拉顿和莫雷尔对纽约警察局发布的关于该市黑帮暴力事件及社会秩序混乱状况的报告表示担忧。
How did this happen?
这是怎么发生的？
Well, basically, it had quite simply two things.
嗯，基本上来说，它主要包含两方面的内容。
The legislature in Albany, City Council in New York, and the pandemic that those are the three driving actors.
推动这一变化的三个主要因素是：奥尔巴尼的立法机构、纽约市的市议会，以及新冠疫情本身。
And then the fourth factor, the one of national concern is the
然后是第四个因素，也就是引起全国关注的因素。
increasing availability of guns.
枪支的获取越来越容易。
We have 400, many of them in the country, and manufacturing more every month.
我们共有 400 台设备，其中许多已经在国内投入使用；而且我们每个月都在生产更多的设备。
So those, from my perspective, the four causes of what's going on in New York right now.
在我看来，这就是目前纽约所发生的一切的四个根本原因。
When you talk about the gun violence,
当你谈到枪支暴力问题时……
we know that Eric Adams was in a DC meeting with President Biden and some other big city leaders about how to combat it.
我们知道，埃里克·亚当斯曾参加在华盛顿特区举行的一次会议，与会者包括拜登总统以及其他一些大城市的领导人，会议讨论了如何应对这一挑战。
He was saying we shouldn't be addressing the symptoms, but rather the underlying causes.
他的意思是，我们不应该仅仅关注症状，而应该找出问题的根本原因。
What do you think?
你怎么看？
That's correct.
没错。
The idea is that the gun violence issue, we need to be able to put people in jail who engage in gun violence.
我们的观点是：对于枪支暴力问题，我们必须能够将那些实施枪支暴力的人关进监狱。
That is not a discipline.
那根本算不上一种“纪律”（或：一种有序、规范的行为方式）。
That's a cause.
这就是一个值得为之奋斗的目标（或理由）。
He is also called for the recreation of the street crime unit, the anti gun unit, whatever day they actually give it.
他还呼吁重新设立负责打击街头犯罪的部门以及反枪支犯罪部门；无论这些部门最终何时真正得到设立，他的这一呼吁都是必要的。
It was immensely, and significantly responsible for the gun crime reduction we had back in the mid 1990s when I was a hundred person,
这项措施在很大程度上促成了20世纪90年代中期枪支犯罪率的下降。当时我负责管理一个仅有100名成员的小团队。
very highly trained specialized unit.
这是一支经过高度专业训练的特种部队。
As he reactivates it when he becomes mayor, I would hope they would look to the model.
当他成为市长并重新启用该系统时，我希望他们能够参考这个已经验证过的模式（即之前的成功经验或最佳实践）。
We had 1994 to 1996 and not some of the later models that you need highly trained people
我们使用的是 1994 年到 1996 年期间生产的型号，而不是那些需要专业训练人员才能操作的后期型号。
that effectively know what they're doing.
这些人实际上非常清楚自己在做什么。
It's interesting when you say when he becomes mayor, because we know he will be up against Curtis Sleeley.
你说当他成为市长时会发生什么，这确实很有意思；因为我们知道他会与柯蒂斯·斯利利（Curtis Sleeley）竞争。
You also had tweeted out that it was good news for the city when he got the primary.
你还曾在推特上表示，当他赢得初选时，这对这座城市来说是个好消息。
I know the two of you go way back.
我知道你们俩的关系非常亲密（或者说，你们的交情由来已久）。
Have you been in any kind of discussions with him, advisory discussions?
你和他进行过任何形式的讨论吗？比如咨询性质的讨论？
I have not that my satisfaction at his election was that I think he was the best candidate to address the crime issue.
我对他当选的满意之处，并不在于我认为他是解决犯罪问题的最佳人选。
He has the background of law enforcement.
他具有执法部门的背景和工作经验。
He has some of the best ideas compared to what the other candidates were talking about.
与其他候选人提出的想法相比，他的想法确实更为出色。
The problem is he's not going to be mayor for the next six months,
问题在于，在接下来的六个月里，他都不会担任市长一职。
and so his influence on the current administration will have to wait and see how he and De Blasio
因此，他对现任政府的影响还有待观察——具体来说，就是要看他和德布拉西奥（De Blasio）之间的互动会如何发展。
and for that matter, the governor get along.
顺便说一下，那位州长与大家相处得都很好。
Hopefully that they find some way to communicate with each other.
希望他们能找到某种方式来互相交流。