Talarico vs. Paxton: Why the Texas Senate race is so close · Vox
本期节目分析德州参议员选举的激烈竞争，探讨候选人Talarico和Paxton的竞选策略及文化议题对选民的影响。适合练习政治话题和听力理解。
I think you just hinted at the fact that Texans on the ground don't want to talk about a sexuality.
我认为你只是暗示了一个事实：那些身处困境中的德克萨斯人（比如战争中的伤员或被困人员）并不愿意谈论自己的性取向。
Yeah, I was I if you want to see a Texan blush, you know, say say to them,
是的，如果你想看到一个典型的德州人的反应（比如脸红），你就直接跟他们说吧。
the vice president says James Taller goes gay.
副总统称詹姆斯·塔勒（James Taller）变成了同性恋者。
What do you think?
你怎么看？
Welcome to Vox conversations.
欢迎来到 Vox 的对话环节。
I'm Sean Ramos for him.
我是肖恩·拉莫斯，负责与他联系。
I work at Vox.
我在 Vox 公司工作。
I am one of our co -hosts of the daily news show today.
我是今天这档每日新闻节目的联合主持人之一。
Explain.
请解释一下。
And I'm joined by my co -host, Noel King, who also hosts today.
和我一起主持节目的是我的搭档诺埃尔·金（Noel King），他今天也是节目的主持人之一。
Explain.
请解释一下。
We are here today to talk about whether the Democrats can and will flip Texas to the best of our knowledge.
我们今天聚集在这里，是为了讨论民主党是否能够、以及是否会将德克萨斯州转变为支持民主党的阵营。据我们所知，这确实是一个值得关注的问题。
Noel, you recently left me here alone in Washington DC and went to Texas.
诺埃尔，你最近把我一个人留在华盛顿特区，然后去了德克萨斯州。
Tell us what you went for.
告诉我们你最终选择了什么。
Well, as you say, Democrats would like to win the state of Texas this year.
正如你所说，民主党人希望在今年赢得德克萨斯州的选举。
There's a big Senate race and there are two candidates James Tallerico, the Democrat, Ken Paxton, the Republican running neck and neck,
参议院正在进行一场激烈的选举竞争。两位候选人分别是民主党人詹姆斯·塔莱里科（James Tallerico）和共和党人肯·帕克斯顿（Ken Paxton），他们目前势均力敌、不分上下。
which in Texas is very unusual for a Democrat to be doing as well as Tallerico is.
在德克萨斯州，民主党人能够取得如此出色的成绩（尤其是像塔莱里科这样的表现），实在是非常罕见的。
And so Ken Paxton and his campaign have had to find a kind of line of attack on Tallerico,
因此，肯·帕克斯顿（Ken Paxton）及其竞选团队不得不想办法针对塔莱里科（Tallerico）展开攻击。
a successful line of attack.
一种成功的攻击策略（或方法）。
They've been trying out various things.
他们一直在尝试各种不同的方法或方案。
It's like, oh, he's, you know, he doesn't know what he's doing.
就好像……哦，他根本不知道自己在做什么。
He's young.
他还很年轻。
He's like, baby faced, whatever.
他长着一张娃娃脸，总之就是那种看起来很年轻、很可爱的脸型。
But one of the line of attacks,
但是其中有一系列的攻击手段……
one of the lines of attack that
其中一条攻击路线是……
they solidified over the past couple of months is to suggest that James Tallerico is not enough of a man to represent Texas.
在过去几个月里，这种看法逐渐固化；这表明詹姆斯·塔莱里科（James Tallerico）根本不具备代表德克萨斯州的资格。
It's like straight on attacks at his gender, on his gender.
这简直就是针对他的性别的直接攻击。
And so we went to Texas, producer
于是我们去了德克萨斯州，制片人。
Peter Balenon -Rosen and I went to Texas to see whether or not that line of attack was working for Texas voters.
彼得·巴莱农（Peter Balenon）和罗森（Rosen）一起去德克萨斯州，目的是考察这种宣传策略是否能够吸引德克萨斯州的选民。
Okay, I want to ask more.
好的，我想再问一些问题。
I want to ask more about whether or not it's working.
我想进一步了解这个方法是否真的有效（即是否能够达到预期的效果）。
For starters though, just this idea of can the Democrats flip Texas?
不过，首先我们来看看这个想法：民主党真的有可能扭转德克萨斯州的局势吗？
It's one that people like us in
这正是像我们这样的人所喜欢的类型。
the media have been obsessed with for
媒体一直对这件事着迷不已……
years and years and years now and actually to give people a little peek behind the scenes of today explained our show.
这么多年过去了，今天我们通过让大家稍微了解一下节目背后的制作过程，希望能让大家更好地理解我们的节目。
In your early days on this team, we used to do feedback in a small group of team leaders.
在你加入这个团队的初期，我们会通过一个小型的团队领导小组来进行反馈交流。
And I remember we did an episode on whether Beto O 'Rourke could flip Texas.
我记得我们曾经制作过一集节目，讨论贝托·奥鲁克（Beto O’Rourke）是否有可能改变德克萨斯州的局势（即让该州从共和党控制的阵营转向民主党）。
And I remember you saying like, I didn't like this episode.
我记得你说过：“我不喜欢这一集。
Tell people why you didn't like it, Noel.
诺埃尔，告诉大家你为什么不喜欢它。
All right, so let me just tell you something that you may not know, Sean.
好吧，让我告诉你一些你可能还不知道的事情，肖恩。